If you are looking for wheel travel and not modifying your frame you need to see Danny Ledezma in El Centro, CA. My quad has 17" of wheel travel and the frame has not been modified except for cutting the original headlight/coilover mounts. I run Fox 2.0 coilovers with 8.5" stroke and three springs. The quad is Score legal and has been widened 2.5", can still get 1 inch out of heims if needed. No bushings used, all heims, even the steering which now runs in front of the arms instead of behind for increased wheel travel (running stock steering limits wheel travel). Front setup similar to class 1 car/trophy truck. My bike is at his shop being torn down for powdercoat so call him if you are interested in this setup. I will be picking up the quad in about a week or two. Danny's contact info: shop: Ledezma Off Road Center 760.355.1788 or Nextel 125*135340*13 Mando_Energy The specs are: 2.5" wider, 1" forward. It is not at or under 50 inches. Danny used Score rulebook, not AMA and it measures 52" wide. The heims also allow the suspension to be widened another inch each side if needed. Everything is on heims not a single bushing was used. As far as the Laeger kit is concerned, where are the shocks mounted? The mounting points need to be modified for that amount of wheel travel, you also don't get as much droop with the stock location. It also mentions UP TO 16" DEPENDING ON SHOCKS, with that amount of wheel travel and rear steering (in relation to a-arms) you can't get the right dimensions for minimal bumpsteer and travel. SoCal Fabshop has a set of Raptors that are long travel and have rear steering, they managed to get 14" of wheel travel, not 16. You also need to know where to mount the spindle in relation to your arm. If you notice the kits that are out there all have kinks or a gullwing design to compensate for the longer shock and the spindles are mounted under the arm. This design relocated the spindles which are now in line with the lower a-arm and also gave us an additonal 3inches of ground clearance. Danny also moved the calipers to the rear providing more protection against rock damage. Front steering is stronger than rear steering and yields more wheel travel. All race vehicles that use A-Arms have front steering, look around and you won't find a single Trophy Truck, Class 1, Class 10, or other A-Arm vehicle with rear steering. Front steering allows for the right dimensions for no bumpsteer which is what we have. This suspension was made to fully cycle the 17 inches, it has 17 3/4-18 inches but is limited to 17 when the frame/skid plate hit the floor. I have pics of full droop/bump but need to find them. Danny Ledezma has over 25 years of experience in suspension technology and is also a racer (5/1600 fame). He has fabricated and designed suspensions for race cars, prerunners, quads and even Jeeps (his ORW days). Danny is currently working on a set up for the rear which will have the same if not more amount of wheel travel. The pics are of my YFZ and Danny's 400EX that has similar suspension except his gets 15" of travel. He uses his quad to prerun for his races. If you want a set up like this call Danny Ledezma at: Cell 619.841.4314 or Nextel 125*135340*13 (serious calls only please) The rear suspension is in the works and will have the same or more amount of wheel travel as the front. As far as the spindel it is not the same as the SRP bike. He has rear steering and the lower heim is mounted the same way as the top heim is. His brake calipers are in the stock location. My quad uses stock mounting points for the arms and has front steering and the brake calipers are relocated to the rear of the arms. As far as the shocks they are Fox 2.0 with 8.5" shaft (Extended Length: 23.35" Collapsed Length: 14.85") and yes they are for cars/buggies/trucks, not for quads. My stock shock mounting points were cut off and replaced with a shock tower. Does it ride as good as it looks? You bet, way better than Elkas and Roll Design suspension or anything that is bolt-on. Wanna test ride? The bike is in El Centro at Dannys new shop and will be there for 2-3 weeks. They will be valving the shocks and working on the settings and powdercoating and will test in about a week or two, only serious inquiries need apply. For more info call Danny Ledezma @: 619.841.4314 current contact number is 760 455 1624